Thursday 18 April 2013

John 8:24 and John 8:58 Jesus Never Said He Was God Almighty



John 8:58 is commonly quoted by RC Trinitarians and Oneness proponents to support their erroneous belief that Jesus is God Almighty. However, this is easily cleared up if they bothered reading the context rather than picking out verses in isolation.The meaning of John 8:24 is not that Jesus is claiming that he is the ‘I AM’, but that he is in fact claiming to be the Christ, the Son of God.

 
Let’s place the verse back in context.

John 8:24 KJV

24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.

Now, in v25, who is this ‘even the same that I said unto from the beginning?

Let’s read on to the next three verses, to find the context:

John 8:26-28 KJV

26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.

27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

In v28, Jesus says he is the Son of Man. The fact that in v26 and v27 he says he was sent by his Father, who is God, immediately implies that Jesus is the Son of God. However, let’s go a little further back in the book of John to confirm that this is what Jesus meant in v25.

Note also that in v28 where Jesus says ‘I am he’ he is referring back to the words ‘Son of Man’ in the same sentence in v28.

We hear the term Son of Man used by Jesus again:

John 6:62-69 KJV

62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

These things were said to the Jews in the synagogue at Capernaum:

John 6:59 KJV

59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

But did Jesus say anything else confirming this?

Let’s move a little forward again on to John chapter 7:

John 7:14-17 KJV

14 Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught.

15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?

16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

John 7:27-31 KJV

27 Howbeit we know this man whence he is: but when Christ cometh, no man knoweth whence he is.

28 Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not.

29 But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.

30 Then they sought to take him: but no man laid hands on him, because his hour was not yet come.

31 And many of the people believed on him, and said, When Christ cometh, will he do more miracles than these which this man hath done?

FURTHER PROOF:

John 9:35-38 KJV

35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?

36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?

37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.

38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.

Mark 13:6 KJV

6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Mark 14:61-62 KJV

61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?

62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Please note the use of ‘I AM’ above in v62, and that it refers to the question asked by the high priest in v61.

John 8:58 merely testifies to Jesus pre-existence, that before Abraham was, Jesus was already existing.

Remember: the only charges the Jews could bring against Jesus was that he claimed that he could raise the temple in three days and that he claimed to be the SON OF GOD – NOT GOD HIMSELF! (Mark 14:58-59 KJV)

What else did Jesus say?

Matt. 16:16-17 KJV:

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

John 10:33-36 KJV:

33 The Jews answered him, saying , For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
 
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said , Ye are gods?
 
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came , and the scripture cannot be broken ;
 
36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified , and sent into the world , Thou blasphemest ; because I said , I am the Son of God?

JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS GOD ALMIGHTY

 


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